I didn't have a lot of time for boxing in Pennsylvania, but the
couple I did look for gave me severe headaches. I have no idea if I
was just tired or reading the clues cross-eyed... I can't really
question if the boxes are missing, because I don't think I ever
really found the places where they would have been.
Winahawcawchunk -- Eventually I ended up at the right part of the
park (at 1638 River Road), but it didn't really matter as I was lost
from there... I'm still not sure I had the right place, although the
man I spoke with assured me the address was correct. 83 degrees --
from where? The silver god maybe? Well seeing as how I never found
him, the 83 degrees went nowhere. I did find a bridge, but it wasn't
11 degrees from anything and didn't head south on either end. I
walked around at both ends looking for the Big Bird's perch and felt
as cotton headed as Burt and Ernie... Tried this one several times
from different perspectives... finally I got a headache and gave up.
Bowman's Hill -- This wildflower preserve is a beautiful place with
lots of great, scenic trails -- too bad the hunt for the letterbox
doesn't take advantage of them. After paying my $5 admission fee, I
actually enjoyed running around in circles learning about the
varieties of trees, and realized this part of the hunt was necessary
for the latter part. I wasn't too thrilled when I realized the
trailhead for the second phase was on the complete opposite end of
where I was and there was no drivable road to get there. So I did
the walk and then set out on the hike... (it gets worse). So what
is "WEIR"? Is this like a typo or an abbreviation or what? I
figured it would make sense when I got there, but I walked the entire
length of the fence (how would I know where 1/4 way is without doing
the whole thing?), ending up back at River Road and never found
anything that would correspond to "WEIR". So I went back to the
beginning of the fence row and did it all over again, watching for a
blue blazed trail on my right... I found a blue blazed tree about
the distance off the path that it should be, but there wasn't really
a trail going up the hill there, and there was only 1 blue blaze, not
2. But I tried anyway, thinking it might all fall into place if I
just followed the clues line by line. I couldn't for the life of me
figure out how to use the tree names to derive my compass bearings
and paces, etc. At one point the [tree name] - [tree name] - [tree
name] gave me a negative number and since my compass doesn't do
negative numbers, I got ornery, but went in the direction of the
corresponding positive number -- which didn't take me to anything I
was supposed to find. I'm doubtful that I was even in the right
place! Finally it was getting dark and I was still like 2 miles out
in the woods, so I turned around and went back. Some indication as
to time, distance and level of difficulty would have been appreciated
on this one!
As I spent so much time on these two boxes, I never made it to the
others on my agenda.
On a brighter note, I placed a box while in PA -- in Lancaster
County. It is kind of a fun one and would be a great Autumn
afternoon adventure. Clues to follow later today or tomorrow.
Deb (SpringChick)
P24 F38 X0
PA Boxes -- Frustration!
7 messages in this thread |
Started on 2002-09-22
PA Boxes -- Frustration!
From: SpringChick (springchick1219@attbi.com) |
Date: 2002-09-22 18:27:38 UTC
Re: PA Boxes -- Frustration!
From: skeletonema (tplane@attbi.com) |
Date: 2002-09-22 21:18:22 UTC
There was not an admission fee when the box was planted so I will add
that to the clues along with some estimate of time. After planting the
box I came back two months later and checked bearings and distances and
I stand by the clues as written. As for "weir", consult a dictionary
next time (read the clues in advance, I do). I am sure that would have
helped. I don't plant drive-by boxes but this one is pretty short
distance wise. I guess from re-reading my clues it is essential that
one knows the definition of all the words. I dont think it is a
spoiler to note that when you see the weir you are 1/4 of the way
there.
Better luck next time.
Todd
>
> Bowman's Hill -- This wildflower preserve is a beautiful place with
> lots of great, scenic trails -- too bad the hunt for the letterbox
> doesn't take advantage of them. After paying my $5 admission fee, I
> actually enjoyed running around in circles learning about the
> varieties of trees, and realized this part of the hunt was necessary
> for the latter part. I wasn't too thrilled when I realized the
> trailhead for the second phase was on the complete opposite end of
> where I was and there was no drivable road to get there. So I did
> the walk and then set out on the hike... (it gets worse). So what
> is "WEIR"? Is this like a typo or an abbreviation or what? I
> figured it would make sense when I got there, but I walked the entire
> length of the fence (how would I know where 1/4 way is without doing
> the whole thing?), ending up back at River Road and never found
> anything that would correspond to "WEIR". So I went back to the
> beginning of the fence row and did it all over again, watching for a
> blue blazed trail on my right... I found a blue blazed tree about
> the distance off the path that it should be, but there wasn't really
> a trail going up the hill there, and there was only 1 blue blaze, not
> 2. But I tried anyway, thinking it might all fall into place if I
> just followed the clues line by line. I couldn't for the life of me
> figure out how to use the tree names to derive my compass bearings
> and paces, etc. At one point the [tree name] - [tree name] - [tree
> name] gave me a negative number and since my compass doesn't do
> negative numbers, I got ornery, but went in the direction of the
> corresponding positive number -- which didn't take me to anything I
> was supposed to find. I'm doubtful that I was even in the right
> place! Finally it was getting dark and I was still like 2 miles out
> in the woods, so I turned around and went back. Some indication as
> to time, distance and level of difficulty would have been appreciated
> on this one!
>
> Deb (SpringChick)
> P24 F38 X0
Re: [LbNA] Re: PA Boxes -- Frustration!
From: MARTEL (martel@downeast.net) |
Date: 2002-09-22 18:45:11 UTC-04:00
Perhaps a reading of "Charlie Tending Weir" by Ruth Moore is in order?.....
Memlili
----- Original Message -----
From: "skeletonema"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: PA Boxes -- Frustration!
>
> There was not an admission fee when the box was planted so I will add
> that to the clues along with some estimate of time. After planting the
> box I came back two months later and checked bearings and distances and
> I stand by the clues as written. As for "weir", consult a dictionary
> next time (read the clues in advance, I do). I am sure that would have
> helped. I don't plant drive-by boxes but this one is pretty short
> distance wise. I guess from re-reading my clues it is essential that
> one knows the definition of all the words. I dont think it is a
> spoiler to note that when you see the weir you are 1/4 of the way
> there.
>
> Better luck next time.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
> >
> > Bowman's Hill -- This wildflower preserve is a beautiful place with
> > lots of great, scenic trails -- too bad the hunt for the letterbox
> > doesn't take advantage of them. After paying my $5 admission fee, I
> > actually enjoyed running around in circles learning about the
> > varieties of trees, and realized this part of the hunt was necessary
> > for the latter part. I wasn't too thrilled when I realized the
> > trailhead for the second phase was on the complete opposite end of
> > where I was and there was no drivable road to get there. So I did
> > the walk and then set out on the hike... (it gets worse). So what
> > is "WEIR"? Is this like a typo or an abbreviation or what? I
> > figured it would make sense when I got there, but I walked the entire
> > length of the fence (how would I know where 1/4 way is without doing
> > the whole thing?), ending up back at River Road and never found
> > anything that would correspond to "WEIR". So I went back to the
> > beginning of the fence row and did it all over again, watching for a
> > blue blazed trail on my right... I found a blue blazed tree about
> > the distance off the path that it should be, but there wasn't really
> > a trail going up the hill there, and there was only 1 blue blaze, not
> > 2. But I tried anyway, thinking it might all fall into place if I
> > just followed the clues line by line. I couldn't for the life of me
> > figure out how to use the tree names to derive my compass bearings
> > and paces, etc. At one point the [tree name] - [tree name] - [tree
> > name] gave me a negative number and since my compass doesn't do
> > negative numbers, I got ornery, but went in the direction of the
> > corresponding positive number -- which didn't take me to anything I
> > was supposed to find. I'm doubtful that I was even in the right
> > place! Finally it was getting dark and I was still like 2 miles out
> > in the woods, so I turned around and went back. Some indication as
> > to time, distance and level of difficulty would have been appreciated
> > on this one!
> >
> > Deb (SpringChick)
> > P24 F38 X0
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "skeletonema"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: PA Boxes -- Frustration!
>
> There was not an admission fee when the box was planted so I will add
> that to the clues along with some estimate of time. After planting the
> box I came back two months later and checked bearings and distances and
> I stand by the clues as written. As for "weir", consult a dictionary
> next time (read the clues in advance, I do). I am sure that would have
> helped. I don't plant drive-by boxes but this one is pretty short
> distance wise. I guess from re-reading my clues it is essential that
> one knows the definition of all the words. I dont think it is a
> spoiler to note that when you see the weir you are 1/4 of the way
> there.
>
> Better luck next time.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
> >
> > Bowman's Hill -- This wildflower preserve is a beautiful place with
> > lots of great, scenic trails -- too bad the hunt for the letterbox
> > doesn't take advantage of them. After paying my $5 admission fee, I
> > actually enjoyed running around in circles learning about the
> > varieties of trees, and realized this part of the hunt was necessary
> > for the latter part. I wasn't too thrilled when I realized the
> > trailhead for the second phase was on the complete opposite end of
> > where I was and there was no drivable road to get there. So I did
> > the walk and then set out on the hike... (it gets worse). So what
> > is "WEIR"? Is this like a typo or an abbreviation or what? I
> > figured it would make sense when I got there, but I walked the entire
> > length of the fence (how would I know where 1/4 way is without doing
> > the whole thing?), ending up back at River Road and never found
> > anything that would correspond to "WEIR". So I went back to the
> > beginning of the fence row and did it all over again, watching for a
> > blue blazed trail on my right... I found a blue blazed tree about
> > the distance off the path that it should be, but there wasn't really
> > a trail going up the hill there, and there was only 1 blue blaze, not
> > 2. But I tried anyway, thinking it might all fall into place if I
> > just followed the clues line by line. I couldn't for the life of me
> > figure out how to use the tree names to derive my compass bearings
> > and paces, etc. At one point the [tree name] - [tree name] - [tree
> > name] gave me a negative number and since my compass doesn't do
> > negative numbers, I got ornery, but went in the direction of the
> > corresponding positive number -- which didn't take me to anything I
> > was supposed to find. I'm doubtful that I was even in the right
> > place! Finally it was getting dark and I was still like 2 miles out
> > in the woods, so I turned around and went back. Some indication as
> > to time, distance and level of difficulty would have been appreciated
> > on this one!
> >
> > Deb (SpringChick)
> > P24 F38 X0
>
>
>
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Re: PA Boxes -- Frustration!
From: SpringChick (springchick1219@attbi.com) |
Date: 2002-09-22 23:18:32 UTC
Actually I did look the word up in the dictionary before setting out
and it seemed logical. Only when I did not encounter such a landmark
in my entire journey along the fence, beginning to end, did I wonder
if perhaps it was meant to be something else, an abbreviation of some
sort. I did note that my path never crossed over to the other side
of the fence as the map indicated I would -- perhaps that is where I
ran into problems?
I agree that the bearings and paces in the first part of the clue
were all right on. The second part, when I did not encounter
a "weir" gave me the problems. And then trying to just work into the
third phase (after finding the "weir") also did not seem to make
sense (i.e. arriving at negative compass readings when doing the
indicated computations).
As for distance and time... no it is certainly not a drive-by, which
by the way, are not my favorite boxes (I like the ones where I need
to figure stuff out), but also IMO not a short distance or time (I
was at the preserve approximately 3 1/2 hours) and a quite confusing
set of clues. Granted, I have only found 38 boxes and am not an
expert, but using those as comparison, this one was certainly far
beyond as far as clue difficulty.
And there is a place for those, there are some who actually prefer
those. My intention was not to say it is a bad set of clues, only to
express my frustration with my experience. As for "better luck next
time" thanks, but don't think there will be a next time. I like a
challenge, but not that kind.
Thanks for the response though, and best of luck to future searchers
of the box!
Deb
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "skeletonema" wrote:
>
> There was not an admission fee when the box was planted so I will
add
> that to the clues along with some estimate of time. After planting
the
> box I came back two months later and checked bearings and distances
and
> I stand by the clues as written. As for "weir", consult a
dictionary
> next time (read the clues in advance, I do). I am sure that would
have
> helped. I don't plant drive-by boxes but this one is pretty short
> distance wise. I guess from re-reading my clues it is essential
that
> one knows the definition of all the words. I dont think it is a
> spoiler to note that when you see the weir you are 1/4 of the way
> there.
>
> Better luck next time.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
> >
> > Bowman's Hill -- This wildflower preserve is a beautiful place
with
> > lots of great, scenic trails -- too bad the hunt for the
letterbox
> > doesn't take advantage of them. After paying my $5 admission
fee, I
> > actually enjoyed running around in circles learning about the
> > varieties of trees, and realized this part of the hunt was
necessary
> > for the latter part. I wasn't too thrilled when I realized the
> > trailhead for the second phase was on the complete opposite end
of
> > where I was and there was no drivable road to get there. So I
did
> > the walk and then set out on the hike... (it gets worse). So
what
> > is "WEIR"? Is this like a typo or an abbreviation or what? I
> > figured it would make sense when I got there, but I walked the
entire
> > length of the fence (how would I know where 1/4 way is without
doing
> > the whole thing?), ending up back at River Road and never found
> > anything that would correspond to "WEIR". So I went back to the
> > beginning of the fence row and did it all over again, watching
for a
> > blue blazed trail on my right... I found a blue blazed tree
about
> > the distance off the path that it should be, but there wasn't
really
> > a trail going up the hill there, and there was only 1 blue blaze,
not
> > 2. But I tried anyway, thinking it might all fall into place if
I
> > just followed the clues line by line. I couldn't for the life of
me
> > figure out how to use the tree names to derive my compass
bearings
> > and paces, etc. At one point the [tree name] - [tree name] -
[tree
> > name] gave me a negative number and since my compass doesn't do
> > negative numbers, I got ornery, but went in the direction of the
> > corresponding positive number -- which didn't take me to anything
I
> > was supposed to find. I'm doubtful that I was even in the right
> > place! Finally it was getting dark and I was still like 2 miles
out
> > in the woods, so I turned around and went back. Some indication
as
> > to time, distance and level of difficulty would have been
appreciated
> > on this one!
> >
> > Deb (SpringChick)
> > P24 F38 X0
and it seemed logical. Only when I did not encounter such a landmark
in my entire journey along the fence, beginning to end, did I wonder
if perhaps it was meant to be something else, an abbreviation of some
sort. I did note that my path never crossed over to the other side
of the fence as the map indicated I would -- perhaps that is where I
ran into problems?
I agree that the bearings and paces in the first part of the clue
were all right on. The second part, when I did not encounter
a "weir" gave me the problems. And then trying to just work into the
third phase (after finding the "weir") also did not seem to make
sense (i.e. arriving at negative compass readings when doing the
indicated computations).
As for distance and time... no it is certainly not a drive-by, which
by the way, are not my favorite boxes (I like the ones where I need
to figure stuff out), but also IMO not a short distance or time (I
was at the preserve approximately 3 1/2 hours) and a quite confusing
set of clues. Granted, I have only found 38 boxes and am not an
expert, but using those as comparison, this one was certainly far
beyond as far as clue difficulty.
And there is a place for those, there are some who actually prefer
those. My intention was not to say it is a bad set of clues, only to
express my frustration with my experience. As for "better luck next
time" thanks, but don't think there will be a next time. I like a
challenge, but not that kind.
Thanks for the response though, and best of luck to future searchers
of the box!
Deb
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "skeletonema"
>
> There was not an admission fee when the box was planted so I will
add
> that to the clues along with some estimate of time. After planting
the
> box I came back two months later and checked bearings and distances
and
> I stand by the clues as written. As for "weir", consult a
dictionary
> next time (read the clues in advance, I do). I am sure that would
have
> helped. I don't plant drive-by boxes but this one is pretty short
> distance wise. I guess from re-reading my clues it is essential
that
> one knows the definition of all the words. I dont think it is a
> spoiler to note that when you see the weir you are 1/4 of the way
> there.
>
> Better luck next time.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
> >
> > Bowman's Hill -- This wildflower preserve is a beautiful place
with
> > lots of great, scenic trails -- too bad the hunt for the
letterbox
> > doesn't take advantage of them. After paying my $5 admission
fee, I
> > actually enjoyed running around in circles learning about the
> > varieties of trees, and realized this part of the hunt was
necessary
> > for the latter part. I wasn't too thrilled when I realized the
> > trailhead for the second phase was on the complete opposite end
of
> > where I was and there was no drivable road to get there. So I
did
> > the walk and then set out on the hike... (it gets worse). So
what
> > is "WEIR"? Is this like a typo or an abbreviation or what? I
> > figured it would make sense when I got there, but I walked the
entire
> > length of the fence (how would I know where 1/4 way is without
doing
> > the whole thing?), ending up back at River Road and never found
> > anything that would correspond to "WEIR". So I went back to the
> > beginning of the fence row and did it all over again, watching
for a
> > blue blazed trail on my right... I found a blue blazed tree
about
> > the distance off the path that it should be, but there wasn't
really
> > a trail going up the hill there, and there was only 1 blue blaze,
not
> > 2. But I tried anyway, thinking it might all fall into place if
I
> > just followed the clues line by line. I couldn't for the life of
me
> > figure out how to use the tree names to derive my compass
bearings
> > and paces, etc. At one point the [tree name] - [tree name] -
[tree
> > name] gave me a negative number and since my compass doesn't do
> > negative numbers, I got ornery, but went in the direction of the
> > corresponding positive number -- which didn't take me to anything
I
> > was supposed to find. I'm doubtful that I was even in the right
> > place! Finally it was getting dark and I was still like 2 miles
out
> > in the woods, so I turned around and went back. Some indication
as
> > to time, distance and level of difficulty would have been
appreciated
> > on this one!
> >
> > Deb (SpringChick)
> > P24 F38 X0
Re: PA Boxes -- Frustration!
From: E. Moeller (moelleref@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2002-09-23 17:59:35 UTC-04:00
Deb,
I found the Bowman's Hill box back in May and I
have to say it was harder than I expected. It took me two trips before I
actually found the box and based on the log book that was a low number. I
remember reading that some people found it after 5 trips. While we knew
what the "weir" was, I'm not sure it really helped with the distance.... I
will agree with Todd that while the clues may be a little difficult, they are
accurate.
As for the Winahawcawchunk box, this one is much
shorter and easier than the Bowman Hill box. We also found this box in May
(while we were looking for the Bowman's Hill box). It sounds like you were
at the right address. My only help is to read all the signs for help
identifying the "silver god".
I hope you will try finding these boxes again
sometime in the future,
Erick
Re: PA Boxes -- Frustration!
From: SpringChick (springchick1219@attbi.com) |
Date: 2002-09-23 22:41:34 UTC
Thanks Erick, I'm sure it is one of those boxes that fall together
once you "get" it. I have an idea where I messed up and thus the
reason I never found the weir or the blue blazed trail. Still not
sure about the Washington's Crossing one. Also it seemed like it was
one where having a hiking partner would have helped to bounce stuff
around. Will have to bring OldShoe with on the next trip.
I received e-mails from a couple of other people expressing
frustration with one / both of these boxes for very much the same
reasons, so I feel a little better to know it's not just me ;-)
When I get back to PA I may try again, maybe not. Would like try
some others and get a chance to see new places. We'll see, I am not
planning to be back there any time in the near future.
Deb
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "E. Moeller" wrote:
> Deb,
>
> I found the Bowman's Hill box back in May and I have to say it was
harder than I expected. It took me two trips before I actually found
the box and based on the log book that was a low number. I remember
reading that some people found it after 5 trips. While we knew what
the "weir" was, I'm not sure it really helped with the distance....
I will agree with Todd that while the clues may be a little
difficult, they are accurate.
>
> As for the Winahawcawchunk box, this one is much shorter and easier
than the Bowman Hill box. We also found this box in May (while we
were looking for the Bowman's Hill box). It sounds like you were at
the right address. My only help is to read all the signs for help
identifying the "silver god".
>
> I hope you will try finding these boxes again sometime in the
future,
>
> Erick
once you "get" it. I have an idea where I messed up and thus the
reason I never found the weir or the blue blazed trail. Still not
sure about the Washington's Crossing one. Also it seemed like it was
one where having a hiking partner would have helped to bounce stuff
around. Will have to bring OldShoe with on the next trip.
I received e-mails from a couple of other people expressing
frustration with one / both of these boxes for very much the same
reasons, so I feel a little better to know it's not just me ;-)
When I get back to PA I may try again, maybe not. Would like try
some others and get a chance to see new places. We'll see, I am not
planning to be back there any time in the near future.
Deb
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "E. Moeller"
> Deb,
>
> I found the Bowman's Hill box back in May and I have to say it was
harder than I expected. It took me two trips before I actually found
the box and based on the log book that was a low number. I remember
reading that some people found it after 5 trips. While we knew what
the "weir" was, I'm not sure it really helped with the distance....
I will agree with Todd that while the clues may be a little
difficult, they are accurate.
>
> As for the Winahawcawchunk box, this one is much shorter and easier
than the Bowman Hill box. We also found this box in May (while we
were looking for the Bowman's Hill box). It sounds like you were at
the right address. My only help is to read all the signs for help
identifying the "silver god".
>
> I hope you will try finding these boxes again sometime in the
future,
>
> Erick
Re: PA Boxes -- Frustration!
From: skeletonema (tplane@attbi.com) |
Date: 2002-09-24 05:10:33 UTC
Wow! I have to say that I didn't intend for the Bowman's hill box to
be
really difficult but I did want it to be different. Sometimes it is
difficult to guage the difficulty of ones own clues. Most of my
boxes
are pretty easy with a couple of exceptions. It took almost a year
for
someone to find the one box intended to be difficult and I think that
so far it has been visited twice in just over two years. I think
that
box along with the one we hid in North Dakota may be the least
visited
boxes out there but for different reasons (Has anyone found the NoDak
box?). I had in mind some ideas for one or two really difficult
historical boxes in NJ and PA but we moved before I planted them.
Maybe if we ever get back there...
There was one box that was close to us in NJ when we lived there
that
we tried to find 3 times to find but gave up. We knew we were close
but no joy. I never heard anyone else have difficulty with that
particular box so I kept my mouth shut :) Five visits to find a box
is
heroic and I salute that sort of perserverence.
Now I am trying to increase the couunt of SF bay area boxes. Watch
this space.
Todd and Pam
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "SpringChick" wrote:
> Thanks Erick, I'm sure it is one of those boxes that fall together
> once you "get" it. I have an idea where I messed up and thus the
> reason I never found the weir or the blue blazed trail. Still not
> sure about the Washington's Crossing one. Also it seemed like it
was
> one where having a hiking partner would have helped to bounce stuff
> around. Will have to bring OldShoe with on the next trip.
>
> I received e-mails from a couple of other people expressing
> frustration with one / both of these boxes for very much the same
> reasons, so I feel a little better to know it's not just me ;-)
>
> When I get back to PA I may try again, maybe not. Would like try
> some others and get a chance to see new places. We'll see, I am
not
> planning to be back there any time in the near future.
>
> Deb
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "E. Moeller" wrote:
> > Deb,
> >
> > I found the Bowman's Hill box back in May and I have to say it
was
> harder than I expected. It took me two trips before I actually
found
> the box and based on the log book that was a low number. I
remember
> reading that some people found it after 5 trips. While we knew
what
> the "weir" was, I'm not sure it really helped with the distance....
> I will agree with Todd that while the clues may be a little
> difficult, they are accurate.
> >
> > As for the Winahawcawchunk box, this one is much shorter and
easier
> than the Bowman Hill box. We also found this box in May (while we
> were looking for the Bowman's Hill box). It sounds like you were
at
> the right address. My only help is to read all the signs for help
> identifying the "silver god".
> >
> > I hope you will try finding these boxes again sometime in the
> future,
> >
> > Erick
be
really difficult but I did want it to be different. Sometimes it is
difficult to guage the difficulty of ones own clues. Most of my
boxes
are pretty easy with a couple of exceptions. It took almost a year
for
someone to find the one box intended to be difficult and I think that
so far it has been visited twice in just over two years. I think
that
box along with the one we hid in North Dakota may be the least
visited
boxes out there but for different reasons (Has anyone found the NoDak
box?). I had in mind some ideas for one or two really difficult
historical boxes in NJ and PA but we moved before I planted them.
Maybe if we ever get back there...
There was one box that was close to us in NJ when we lived there
that
we tried to find 3 times to find but gave up. We knew we were close
but no joy. I never heard anyone else have difficulty with that
particular box so I kept my mouth shut :) Five visits to find a box
is
heroic and I salute that sort of perserverence.
Now I am trying to increase the couunt of SF bay area boxes. Watch
this space.
Todd and Pam
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "SpringChick"
> Thanks Erick, I'm sure it is one of those boxes that fall together
> once you "get" it. I have an idea where I messed up and thus the
> reason I never found the weir or the blue blazed trail. Still not
> sure about the Washington's Crossing one. Also it seemed like it
was
> one where having a hiking partner would have helped to bounce stuff
> around. Will have to bring OldShoe with on the next trip.
>
> I received e-mails from a couple of other people expressing
> frustration with one / both of these boxes for very much the same
> reasons, so I feel a little better to know it's not just me ;-)
>
> When I get back to PA I may try again, maybe not. Would like try
> some others and get a chance to see new places. We'll see, I am
not
> planning to be back there any time in the near future.
>
> Deb
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "E. Moeller"
> > Deb,
> >
> > I found the Bowman's Hill box back in May and I have to say it
was
> harder than I expected. It took me two trips before I actually
found
> the box and based on the log book that was a low number. I
remember
> reading that some people found it after 5 trips. While we knew
what
> the "weir" was, I'm not sure it really helped with the distance....
> I will agree with Todd that while the clues may be a little
> difficult, they are accurate.
> >
> > As for the Winahawcawchunk box, this one is much shorter and
easier
> than the Bowman Hill box. We also found this box in May (while we
> were looking for the Bowman's Hill box). It sounds like you were
at
> the right address. My only help is to read all the signs for help
> identifying the "silver god".
> >
> > I hope you will try finding these boxes again sometime in the
> future,
> >
> > Erick